Sunday, May 27, 2007

Where are they all today?

I've removed all the contact info, at least for the time being. It's been 4 days since various media outlets were first notified of its availability. Anyone interested should have a copy by now, and some feathers were being ruffled.

I will still provide a copy to any news dept. (print or television) as long as I can verify the email address through their web page. Any reporters wanting a copy please post a comment here.

All pending comments will be unmoderated once I have a chance to reply.

12 comments:

nunyah said...

Who are you to dig into my family and post our addresses on this page? Dont you think we have been through enough with the Loss of Crystal? Dont you think we are angry as well? By posting our addresses and personal information, you open the door to more violence. You are inviting people to continue the thread of wrongdoing by calling our homes, sending us hatemail and heaven forbid, coming to our homes where we live and grieve and possibly inflicting injury or death. By the grace of God, I hope you can see what you are doing is wrong. You are only sowing the seeds of violence. Enough is enough. If you want someone to pick on, pick on the justice system, Jason told them he was suicidal and going to take people with him, and they did nothing. Leave us alone. We have enough to grieve with the loss of Jason and Crystal,as well as the greif we feel for the other affected families and the entire town of Moscow. We dont need to fear for our own lives as well because you felt it necessary to post our addresses on the internet.

Mike said...

All information has been compiled from public sources on the internet. Any information that is presented here was already published elsewhere.

The media to date has given a very inadequate picture of the background & origins of Jason Hamilton. Basically, their leg work was limited to regurgitating the PDF files placed on-line by the Latah County courts. This compilation gives them some pointers for further research. At least one major regional newspaper has already shown interest in it.

Cousin Alyx said...

You dirty rotten son of a b.... How dare you! Who do you think you are! What gives you the right to inflict pain and violence on others? I understand that this information may be public but, what reason do you have to do this? You have just opened a pandoras box of violence. What keeps people from comming to our homes and causing terror and more violence. What keeps them from burning down our homes or harrasing us til we think that there is no end in sight? Did you think this over before you did it? You must have, its taken you this long to get all the information. Albiet the wrong information!!! You have people on there that are in NO WAY related to Jason or Crystal!!!! What do you think this will do to their lives? Innocent. Thats what we all are!! We have done nothing wrong yet, you see fit to make us horrible people just because we exist. We grieve and mourn the loss of our loved ones. We grieve and feel pain for the other people involved. The entire city of Moscow will never be the same. We feel for them but it is not our fault. You have now made each of us potential victems of unneccessary violence . What will you do if something happens to one of us? Nothing!! Thats just what you will do. Shrug your shoulders and say.. "Well, it was public information" and then get on with your horrible waste of a life. I loved Crystal and Jake like nothing else. I feel a great deal of pain for all of this. Crystal was a true victim in this yet, Jake was also in a different way. He was a victim of poor mental health care and proper authority. He asked for help but never was given adequate help. It does not excuse the issue but it may help explain it some. Why dont you harrass the doctors and police that let him go when he was clearly ill?? Huh? Noooo.. Why bother them, they were just doing their job (POORLY!!!) We have tried to move on in our lives. You have just opened the wound again. We now will fear each time the phone rings and each knock on the door. I do hope you are proud of yourself!! Its a pity that this is what you think is a good use of your time! I sincerly hope that you do not profit from this in any way financially! That would make you an even worse waste of Gods time and our air!!! I am discussed and in awe of your gaul!!! I will sign my name because I dont fear your feeble reply. I am also very very proud to know and love both Jake and Crystal. I am not proud of what he has done but I am very proud of having him in my life.
Alyx Vetter (Jake Hamiltons Cousin)

Cousin Alyx said...

By the way. How brave of you to only use your first name and have a picture of you from childhood. YOu can't even be a man about this. You hide behind a false identity. Bravo!!
Alyx Vetter
Cousin to Jake and Crystal Hamilton

nunyah said...

Understood. I know we live in a public world. All of us are available for public scrutiny. What I don’t understand is why you feel the need to dig into my family and put our phone numbers and addresses on display? Do you need me to contact them for you? I have no fear of the media. but I do fear my aunts and uncles phone numbers and addresses on display. Do you want to see one of us get hurt? What is it that is driving you to do this? If you have a problem with the lack of correct information given by the media, call a newspaper and take it up with them. Call up the news stations and give them all of your hard work and research , including our phone numbers and we will see what happens. My money says they will not be flashing our names and numbers on the TV screen for every revenge seeker in Idaho to come look us up. Do you think we have no feelings? Do you think we wanted this to happen? If you want a look into his background, ask. What do you want to know? He was not perfect, but he was certainly not what you are making him out to be. As far as Crystal is concerned, she was the nicest, sweetest person anyone could ever ask to know. I am sorry to have lost them both, they were, and always be in my heart. I am so mad a Jake for taking crystal with him, it just breaks my heart. You have no right getting involved in family business that you are not part of. What is it that you have against us? Why do you want to hurt us? You clearly have too much time on your hands if all you can do is dig into the genealogy of a family you have no ties with. Let us grieve in peace...we don’t need random strangers calling our homes making things worse. IF you are doing this to “help” the media to get the story straight, the give them the info yourself…don’t wait for them to come and find it.

nunyah said...

Why don't you answer? You started this blog. I am trying to set the record straight...I thought all you were looking for was the real story. Thats why you posted our families personal information on this site, right? Im here to talk....so start asking all your burning questions. Take down my families phone numbers and addresses. We have family members in the military as well as the police force, you want them in the spotlight too? What is your real damage anyhow? What kind of coward hides behind a childhood photo when posting incorrect information on another family anyway? Would you like to know which part of the family you screwed up? I can't tell you until you post back.

Rose said...

Your picture of Jason hamilton is erroneous and some things that you assumed are hilarious. I dare you to print this. Now all family friends and others have YOUR name address and phone number. I mean it is after all public knowledge. I'm sure your local paper will be interested in all of this so called reseach and how you positively connected name to name. You have caused a great deal of pain and confusion. You are very sick and need counseling for persecuting people. Guilt by assosiation. How sad that innocent people are tried by those with petty minds. But it happens. Chyrstals family and law enforcement were most empathetic and helpful. The tragedy needs no more.Rose57Grace@yahoo.com

Mike said...

Two comments by Cousin Alex:

You dirty rotten son of a b....(Cousin Alex)

Your use of profanity speaks for itself.

Albiet the wrong information!!! (Cousin Alex)

Show me where it's wrong.

then get on with your horrible waste of a life.(Cousin Alex)

Yup, will do!

He was a victim of poor mental health care and proper authority. He asked for help but never was given adequate help. It does not excuse the issue but it may help explain it some. (Cousin Alex)

The only evidence that's come to light so far is that he avoided seeking the proper (and court-ordered) mental health. If you have any evidence to the contrary, I'm sure there are lots of people who would like to know.

A victim of "proper authority"?
Care to explain that?

You hide behind a false identity. Bravo!! Alyx Vetter (Cousin Alex)

Not particularly relevant since this blog isn't about me. I set out to find out what about about Jason Kenneth Hamilton, his background, relations,etc. And I challenge you (or anyone else) to show me what information in this blog is incorrect. And thanks for adding another name to the collection.

2nd comment by nunyah:

Do you need me to contact them for you? I have no fear of the media. (nunyah)

Please do. The current picture is in inadequate.

Call up the news stations and give them all of your hard work and research , including our phone numbers and we will see what happens. (nunyah)

Already delivered to a number in the Northwest & in northern California.

My money says they will not be flashing our names and numbers on the TV screen for every revenge seeker in Idaho to come look us up. (nunyah)

Nor would I expect them to. What I do expect is that the media will begin their own research and put together a more complete background story on Jason Hamilton.

The feedback I've had from the media to date is that they were impressed with the thoroughness of the research.

What is it that you have against us? Why do you want to hurt us? (nunyah)

Now you're trying to make this about you. It isn't. But the balance of the story must come from those who knew him.

the give them the info yourself (nunyah)

I did that, and after considering your 2nd comment, I removed that
information from the blog. It will still be made available to media on request, but I'd guess most have alreay copied it.

3rd comment by nunyah:

Why don't you answer? (nunyah)

I'd already answered you once that day, and I'd already responded to your second comment by removing the contact info. I'm not likely to jump any faster for you.


I am trying to set the record straight...I thought all you were looking for was the real story. (nunyah)

But you've provide no real information or explanation.

We have family members in the military as well as the police force, you want them in the spotlight too?

Now this is interesting -- what he shooting at his own relatives?

Would you like to know which part of the family you screwed up? I can't tell you until you post back. (nunyah)

You're free to post all you want. Nothing is stopping you.

4th comment by nunyah:

You still have my Aunt Glenda listed with contact info. (nunyah)

I will look for that and remove it. But your concern seems to be selective. I'm pretty sure there is info about a couple others buried in other posts as well. They will be removed as soon as I have time to re-read the whole blog from top to bottom.

... crap ... (nunyah)

Such elegance.

Its bad enough you had to post Uncle Chris and Uncle David's obits here. (nunyah)

Public information, dear. Get used to it.

back off of our family. (nunyah)

It's not about your family specifically. I've been researching the background, acqaintances and relations of Jason Kenneth Hamilton. Unfortunately, there is very little information in the first two categories.

Comment by Rose:

Your picture of Jason hamilton is erroneous and some things that you assumed are hilarious. (Rose)

And I challenge you to show me where the errors are. I'm not painting a picture -- I'm simply connecting the dots of publicly available information.

I dare you to print this. (Rose)

I'm not printing anything. Just collecting information in the blog.

Now all family friends and others have YOUR name address and phone number. I mean it is after all public knowledge. I'm sure your local paper will be interested in all of this so called reseach and how you positively connected name to name. (Rose)

Problem is, I'm not really a part of this story. How I connected all the information is pretty basic. Google is my friend, and I know how to use. Even if you do have my name, address and phone, they're not likely to be of any real value to you for the simple reason that I've limited myself to compiling publicly available info.

And I'll repeat my challenge -- show me where my purported errors are.

Brandy said...

Hey we're showing you your errors. Here and @ whowasjasonhamiltonthetruestory. Just in case you want to keep editing your posts. Brandy

Rose said...

Lets see with the Hamiltons and Ownbeys you have daughters married to fathers and in one case a grandaughter married to her grandfather. I don't know if yoiu have an Aunt that married into you original family but if so does that make you related to all of her original family members. You know her distant cousin is now responsible for standing up for you or for being punished for something one of her nephews twice removed may have done illegally! For shame. You get funnier and funnier and I'm wondering why anyone especially a news service would take you seriously. Just like the Aryan nations thing. It's been years since he was assosiated with that. But a scorned and angry woman can drag up past mistakes. Rose

Q said...

Cute picture Mikey. So what happened to you? Mom drop you on your head to many times? You need to dwell on other peoples lives to bring meaning to your own? Or are you working on a movie of the week for Lifetime? Maybe your just a pathetic little man who has no life outside the internet. I am truly sorry. Knowing the world has to suffer fools like you. Why don't you just leave the family alone. If the media wants us, I promise you they will surley find us. They don't need your help. So far I have been contacted by uh lets see....no one. Their just busting down my door to find out all about Jason Hamilton. I am not hard to find. Well for you I am. If they needed your help they would lift the refrigerator and scrape you out from underneath. I say such mean and hateful things or whos name calling or being slanderous wont work on me. Say what you will about my posting. But for me the simple fact is YOU SUCK!! You are the kind of person who during World War Two would have turned in his own family. I dont expect you to go away or leave the family alone and quit dragging us through the memory. But you should really find a new hobby. Your a Jackass. Q

Mike said...

Lets see with the Hamiltons and Ownbeys you have daughters married to fathers and in one case a grandaughter married to her grandfather. (Rose)

How so?

For Hamilton marriages, I referenced the California & Nevada marriage records.

For Ownbeys (only two are left in the picture at this point) I don't see where there would be an error unless the obituary itself was incorrect when it indicated he was survived two daughters with the last name of Germen.

Your information isn't specific enough to identify any problems.

You get funnier and funnier and I'm wondering why anyone especially a news service would take you seriously. (Rose)

Thank you, but you haven't actually pointed out any specific errors.